[Twisted-web] Nginx vs Twisted Web

[Gelin Yan]

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Christopher Lozinski <
lozinski at freerecruiting.com> wrote:

>  I am just choosing a web server, and I thought it would be good to
> consult with this mailing list, since twisted web was on my short list.
>
>  I run a python moinmoin wiki, a static site, a zope 2 site, and a zope
> 3 site on a VPS.
>
> The thing I care about most, is ease of use.  None of my websites are
> very high traffic.  And I have way way too much complexity in my life to
> manage.
>
> The next thing I care about is reliability.
>
> The thing I care least about is performance.  Would that I had that
> problem.
>
> So Apache is the obvious first choice.  But it is so complicated.  They
> threw in everything but the kitchen sink.  I just do not like it, nor do
> I want to spend the time wrestling with it to get it to do the needful.
> And you have to restart apache everytime the config files change.
>
> Nginx is the next obvious choice.  "Apache is like Microsoft Word, it
> has a million options but you only need six. Nginx does those six
> things, and it does five of them 50 times faster than Apache."
>
> Lightpd is an option, but perhaps it does not support wsgi.  Maybe
> lightpd2 does.
>
> Cherokee showed up on my radar, it has a nice web admin GUI, but hard to
> configure with moinmoin.
>
> There are 20 or 30 other web servers, all of which I am ignoring.  But
> one that I have looked at closely is twisted web.
>
> TwistedWeb is very interesting.  When I read the Apache documentation,
> my eyes glaze over.  When I read the twisted documentation, my eyes
> light up.
> What an intelligent object model of networking.  Twisted Web is also
> closely related to Zope.  At the very least, it is also using Zope
> Component Architecture, which I like.
>
> So here is my comparison of twisted web and nginx.
>
> With Twisted web, first I wonder about configuration.  Nginx is just
> some configuration files.  Perhaps easier then editing a python program.
>
> Then I wonder about reliability.  Nginx has a larger installed base,
> more bug reports presumably more reliable.   Plus it includes a process
> monitor that
> keeps things running.  I think twisted web includes monitoring software,
> but perhaps not as robust and mature.
>
> The next nice thing about Nginx is that you can drop configuration files
> and the server recognizes them, and does the right thing.  No need to
> reboot.
> The twisted web python program I would have to restart.
>
> Finally I worry about the performance.  You can see a bunch of
> interesting results for python servers here.
> http://nichol.as/benchmark-of-python-web-servers
>
> In general twisted web does not seem that fast, nor reliable.  High
> error rates.  Bummer.
>
> What is my conclusion?  Well I think Twisted web is a brilliant object
> model for networking software.  But dedicated software for web serving,
> like nginx performs way better
> and is much more reliable.
>
> So I think I am going to use Nginx in front of my moinmoin, zope 2, zope
> 3 and static servers.   Is that the right decision?   Pity, I really
> like twisted web.
>
> Anyhow I thought I would post this here, and see what people have to
> say.  Presumably I made some mistakes in this document.  Please let me
> know what they are.
>
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Hi

   you can take a look at cyclone (http://www.cyclone.io) it is not bad. I
use it daily.

Regards

gelin yan
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