[Twisted-Python] Adding mock as a test suite dependency

Jasper St. Pierre jstpierre at mecheye.net
Mon Oct 22 10:55:23 EDT 2012

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Glyph <glyph at twistedmatrix.com> wrote:
> On Oct 21, 2012, at 7:45 PM, Julian Berman <julian at grayvines.com> wrote:
> This seems like a pretty small benefit; adding a new dependency affects lots
> of people and introduces a new point of failure in the installation process,
> especially for Windows users who already have a devil of a time getting
> Twisted installed.

Is there anything we can do to make the dependency stuff nicer to
install on Windows, other than throwing out all niceties that we can
depend on? It seems that the issue here is our lack of good
installation story on Windows.

> Also I don't particularly like the testing style associated with Mock.  I
> think it might discourage us yet further from writing verified fakes, i.e.
> supported in-memory implementations of things like IReactorTCP, that have
> somewhat intricate behavior that's tedious to emulate with Mock.
> Personally I'm -0.  Don't let that stop you from cooking up a patch that
> would include it though, I might be in the minority here.
> -glyph
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