[Twisted-Python] [RFC] Introducing six as a dependency

gelin yan dynamicgl at gmail.com
Fri Jul 27 13:07:59 EDT 2012


On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Tobias Oberstein <
tobias.oberstein at tavendo.de> wrote:

> > >It is obscure. And I don't have a link, but the official Python on
> > >Windows builds are done using Microsoft Visual C++ 2008.
> > >
> > >- VS 2010 will NOT work
> > >- the free VS 2008 Express works (for 32-bit builds .. it does not
> > >include a 64-bit compiler)
> > >
> > >To build Twisted working with official binary Python builds, the exact
> > >same compiler is needed: VS2008.
> >
> > The question isn't "What compiler is needed to build Twisted?"  People
> on this
> > list probably know that already (I certainly do, since I set up several
> of Twisted's
> > Windows buildslaves).  The question is "How could a user ever hope to
> find out
> > what compiler is needed to build Twisted?"
>
> IMO, the build should figure that out (pip/easy_install). Why should I
> take the burden
> of searching through docs (however easy those may be or may not be to
> find),
> when the build tool can detect and inform me about the compiler needed?
>
> Of course that again underlines the deficiencies glyph pointed out with
> pip/easy_install.
>
> Twisted might compensate those by including detection in it's build
> scripts .. but
> that will be controversial for sure (compensating for stuff that would
> better be
> fixed elsewhere ..)
>
> >
> > As long as the Python documentation fails to answer this question better
> than it
> > does now (and VS2008 is not the correct answer: the correct answer
> _depends
> > on the Python version_), Windows users will not have an easy time of it.
>
> Yeah, right;) I didn't want to say Python 1.5 builds with VS2008, but the
> current Py2 one.
>
> >
> > Jean-Paul
> >
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Hi

  Actually, you can use VS 2010 with python but you need to modify sth.
deploying python app (not only with twisted) on windows is troublesome.
Sometimes, I have to manually download .msi files and execute it order by
order. I am sure that 99% of windows servers don't have a working compiler
no matter it is "free" or not.

Regards

gelin yan
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