<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On Oct 11, 2005, at 10:49 PM, <A href="mailto:glyph@divmod.com">glyph@divmod.com</A> wrote:</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I remember participating in this initial discussion.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I remember taking some side in it, and arguing strongly for that side.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I'm not sure which one it was, so if I'm responsible for rejecting it I've changed my mind, but if I was arguing in favor of it I'm now even more vociferous :).</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD">Just in the interest of clarity, I'm fairly certain you argued against this, because of the pain it would cause the developer involved in all aspects of Twisted as opposed to just one or two subprojects. Then I wrote pthy, to try to make that kind of thing easier, no one used it, and now apparently you've written Combinator to do the same thing in a different and all together better way. So I support this kind of change. </FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD">As to when it should take place it's probably a good idea to discuss it for at least one release to try and avoid releases getting even more bogged down. I seem to recall one of the major reasons it took 2.0 so long to get released was the logistics of making the initial split actually work. On that note, I do seem to recall that you (glyph) suggested splitting the package distribution and doing the repository reorganization with a few releases in between.</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000DD">-David</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>