[Twisted-Python] Trial & the mock library

Glyph glyph at twistedmatrix.com
Fri Jul 26 02:03:43 MDT 2013


On Jul 25, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Matt Haggard <haggardii at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a few thoughts:
> 
> First, how does this hypothetical system for specifying return types solve the original problem (that user-written methods on TestCase pass unexpectedly when a non-Deferred is returned)?  If I'm the one writing test_whatever, with the proposed doc string method for specifying return type, then wouldn't I need to write a docstring that specifies the return type as Deferred?
> 
All of this follows quite obviously if you just consider that a functional specification document (in other words, the generalization of the docstring) is simply a partial bijective homomorphism over the orbifold of possible runtime states (into the Hilbert space with a boundary defined by the NxM coordinate matrix of all possible intersections of sets of bugs and non-bugs of course).
> Second, I don't love the idea of the docstring changing how a function behaves... I like that it's a free form blob of text.  I think I'd rather see decorators used for this purpose.
> 
It's not so much changing how the function behaves but rather what its behavior is.

In any case, there's a great paper which offers an excellent theoretical background that should explain what I mean by that distinction, and should really elucidate some of the other threads in this conversation as well: <http://isotropic.org/papers/chicken.pdf>

Hope that clears things up,

-glyph


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