[Twisted-Python] Fw: Re: Zope and Twisted
andreas at mtg.co.at
Wed Feb 5 15:05:47 EST 2003
Am Mittwoch, 5. Februar 2003 17:59 schrieb Itamar Shtull-Trauring:
> Perhaps I don't understand YOUR Twisted model of networking, which is
> OSI compliant. The OSI model IS NETWORKING and all real Turing-based
> computational systems that employ networking implement parts of the
What to hell does OSI have to do with Turing-machines?
Nothing, or less?
> Perhaps YOU need to learn about the various layers of the model before
> begin to bandy about the operationally defined words transport and
Well, there are not to many "sucessful" applications of OSI in the real world.
TCP/IP comes to mind as a prime example.
> Clearly, the folks at Twisted have their own meanings for transport and
> protocol, which differ greatly from their KNOWN and ACCEPTED definitions
> employed in the PROFESSIONAL programming world and the ACADEMIC
Not really. My experience suggests that terms that are as heavy overloaded
always need a definition in the context they are used.
One of the telltales of a professional is that he can adjust to very different
kinds of environments quickly.
> Incidentally, I was writing network-based applications when you were
> in grade school.
Who cares? Especially in the IT world being an old-hand is not necessarily a
> I'll be sure to recommend to my Fortune 500 clients to not use a product
> administered by essentially, immature children.
Who is the immature child here?
Coming into a community, barking around acrynoms that nobody cares about,
insulting the developers, and so on?
If you think that renaming all the stuff is a good idea, you are certainly
invited to do it yourself.
Last time I checked you are quite allowed to fork of a OSI-Twisted project.
In effect if you care that much about OSI terminology, you are quite capable
to patch it yourself. :)
Well, that's curious if you list Twisted on the first line of your Resume, and
then you do not recommend it. (Well at least in situations where Twisted
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